Comments on: Cloud vs Grid Thoughts from Mike D

By: abrahamxavier

abrahamxavier — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 07:30:41 +0000

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By: mike897

mike897 — Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:19:43 +0000

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By: john213

john213 — Thu, 17 Dec 2009 07:44:42 +0000

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By: goddysoft

goddysoft — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 09:20:10 +0000

You said this "...The point of cloud is you don’t have to care if you have a grid" this is if you are a common user but we are not common users we try to design what is best for our enterprises and cloud fits in as a solution just like grid.
I was expecting to have some facts on why an enterprise would abide for a cloud and not a grid. The differences, the maintenance and the cost.

As for me from a technological point of view cloud and grid are the same because we can run them on heterogenous platform and provide the maximum capacities of our infrastructures and services.
From a servicing point of view that is where there is a difference because grid is put in place in other to respond with the max capacity available to request coming from users meanwhile cloud while expected to do the same is open to mere users without them just waiting for the job to be done.

Goddy EPIE
http://oraclecameroon.blogspot.com/

By: Nothing

Nothing — Fri, 20 Feb 2009 13:47:10 +0000

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sorry mate, but I had to.

By: Mike DiPetrillo

Mike DiPetrillo — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 11:30:53 +0000

Great explanation. And yes, in a perfect world there would be standards. That's what's being worked on now in places like CCIF (Cloud Computing Interoperability Forum) and OGF (Open Grid Forum).

By: Massimo Re Ferre'

Massimo Re Ferre' — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 11:24:27 +0000

Mike,
If you ask 10 (knowledgeable) people about this topic you would probably get 11 answers.. all different obviously….

I always tend to see Grids and Clouds as two similar ideas but implemented at different “API levels”. Grid has (or I should say had?) the ambitious to create a common API across different OSes so that an application could just be “ported” onto the Grid (and what happens next you don't care as you have an SLA contract with the Grid etc etc).

The “little” problem was the “porting” part. No one wants (or wanted?) to reinvent the wheel and re-write the applications etc etc etc (usual problem). So the magic at that point was to lower the level of integration and provide a level of abstraction which is below the OS (you might guess what this is … ).

This way you don't have to rewrite anything and BTW encapsulating your WHOLE environment into a single file (by design) is a HUGE bonus.

In the perfect Cloud word there would be a standard though across disks formats and other little details so that you could take your Amazon VM, check it out and check it in again into another cloud that runs a different “virtualization” platform.

Massimo.

By: greg schulz

greg schulz — Sun, 15 Feb 2009 15:25:22 +0000

Nice post, and concur, that probably 95% of the time, a cluster is a grid, a grid is a cluster and many vendors will use grid to try and difference themselves from others who are also clusters as grid sounds more impressive to many.

Now with clouds, there is more confusion. Like grids, clouds can be a public or private, a service, a product, architecture, a paradigm or all of the above. Often as a term or phrase gets used up, worn out, and assuming you are tiered of the 2.0 3.0 4.0 game, grab onto a new buzzword phrase.

Hence, cluster and grid worn out as everyone is using it or meeting the requirements, call yourself a cloud, after all, when you see a PowerPoint slide deck and there is something that can’t easily be described, just draw a cloud right?

SaaS, SOA , SSP, ASP, xSP and others have also been worn out, so, call them a cloud, after all, there is opportunity in chaos and confusion so with changing and shifting to clouds, there is plenty of confusion.

Now having said that, there are some great solutions that are emerging and evolving that embrace multiple tenancies including policy based management, service oriented solutions and so forth. The devil is in the details and interpretations or definitions are often in the eye of the beholder.

So what, what does this all mean? Focus on what the solution is addressing and how it enables business sustainably, address issues and requirements and less on the debate of if it is a clusters, grid or cloud. Look to see how a solution or service provides application and business agility, improved productivity and efficiency for business sustainability.

So is your future cloudy or clear?

Cheers - gs
Greg Schulz - Author "The Green and Virtual Data Center" (CRC)
www.thegreenandvirtualdatacenter.com
www.storageioblog.com

By: Mike DiPetrillo

Mike DiPetrillo — Fri, 13 Feb 2009 13:54:00 +0000

I told you this conversation comes up all the time.